Re: [AMBER-Developers] Shuttle calls

From: Adrian Roitberg via AMBER-Developers <amber-developers.ambermd.org>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 11:18:30 -0400

Didi you actually meant to send this to the WHOLE dev list ?

nice move.


On 8/5/22 3:36 PM, Scott Le Grand via AMBER-Developers wrote:
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> Private profanity-laden personal email attacks and insinuations about my
> motives aside Adrian (and I won't post them here because shame on you but I
> am petty enough to mention it because transparency is everything and what
> you wrote ought to be beneath you), spending 8+ months in this code has led
> to strong opinions about what happened to it and what ought to be done
> about it. I'm happy to discuss those opinions with anyone who's willing to
> invest anywhere close to that much effort reviewing the codebase and I'd
> love a genuine collaborator here, but it doesn't seem like anyone has my
> level of interest in refactoring PMEMD out of its situation (Cerutti's
> gone, and Taisung seems like he wants to science and that's OK), and I've
> already accepted that whatever I build won't be called PMEMD because I am
> going 100% FOSS with it and PMEMD isn't, but it will be a successor to it.
>
> But that ought not to be controversial IMO, but alas, everything's
> controversial these days, no? NEB was a clear cut case for a braindead
> simple GPU kernel anyone with a modicum of interest in CUDA could write and
> there are plenty of examples in the code already for AMD, GAMD, the Scalar
> Sum, the update and EField on which to base it. Its addition to PMEMD
> should have been blocked until the author spent the time on it IMO. Water
> under the bridge now, but yeah, shuttle is dead dead dead. And if anyone
> ends up using what I built, they can build GPU NEB in a day with the API
> even in its primordial state. And they can even do it on the CPU, but it
> won't be in the codebase, it will be in the model zoo where it belongs
> along with most of the other drive-by additions to PMEMD. And that ought to
> ameiiorate the bitrot. Or not, we'll see.
>
> But hybridizing a GPU codebase with the CPU is everything wrong with
> GROMACS. It works fantastically when both the CPU and the GPU are SOTA but
> results are not typical. The reason I went 100% GPU was so that even a
> craptastic ARM chip in an embedded system would deliver 95+% the GPU
> performance of a SOTA CPU driving that GPU so as to enable post-docs and
> grad students to upgrade their GPUs independently of their workstations to
> accelerate their research without breaking the bank as well as cut down on
> e-Waste. Plus GPUs are moving exponentially faster than CPUs so CPUs
> inevitable become decelerators or e-Waste. Whatever else you think of me,
> that's my story and I have 20+ patents and 6-figures of lines of code out
> there to back it up.
>
> But by all means dismiss my entire career. Dismissing expertise and wisdom
> is really the rage now. Yikes.
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Dr. Adrian E. Roitberg (he/him/el)
V.T. and Louise Jackson Professor in Chemistry
Department of Chemistry
University of Florida
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