Re: [AMBER-Developers] [AMBER] CUDA test failed

From: Scott Le Grand <varelse2005.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:54:54 -0700

That's easily the result of running on a different GPU architecture (Fermi
versus Kepler, SM 3.0 versus SM 3.5) or using a different toolkit than the
system used to generate those reference files.

And there's zero zip nada null I can do to address that. You guys would
have to build specific reference files for each class of GPU (GK104, GK110,
GM204, GM107, GF1xx) x Toolkits (6.5, 6.0, 5.5, 5.0)

Scott

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Daniel Roe <daniel.r.roe.gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know that there was some discussion of this right after the Amber 14
> release, but I wasn't sure where we ended up on this.
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Jason Swails <jason.swails.gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, the pmemd.cuda tests have this problem sometimes. The
> > larger errors should occur for the stochastic tests (ntt=2 and ntt=3 --
> the
> > name often tells you if one of those thermostats is involved).
> >
> > The problem is that the random number generators are different on each
> GPU
> > model. As a result, it was impossible with the Amber 14 code to design a
> > test that would give identical results on all GPUs, even if you specified
> > the initial seed. As a result, the only cards that all tests pass for
> are
> > the cards that Ross used to create the test files in the first place.
>
> Are we sure this is the correct explanation? I ask because I see some
> diffs that don't appear to be related to thermostat. For example, in
> the serial CUDA minimization test for chamber/dhfr_pbc at the final
> step the dihedral energy absolute diff is 2.33E-01:
>
> cuda/chamber/dhfr_pbc/mdout.dhfr_charmm_pbc_noshake_min.dif
> .< DIHED = 739.3609
> .> DIHED = 739.3595
>
> This is larger than what is usually considered "acceptable" for CPU -
> is it OK for GPU? There are many test diffs (at least using the
> compile from the GIT tree as of Oct. 8):
>
> Serial:
> 89 file comparisons passed
> 36 file comparisons failed
> 0 tests experienced errors
>
> MPI:
> 54 file comparisons passed
> 33 file comparisons failed
> 0 tests experienced errors
>
> I've attached a plot of the maximum absolute error grabbed from the
> related test diff files. From my cursory inspection of the diffs
> themselves most of this stuff does appear innocuous. In some cases the
> diffs are in the 'RMS fluctuations section', or its only a single step
> where e.g. the PRESS variable is off by 0.1, etc. However, I can see
> how these results would be very alarming for an everyday user.
>
> If I switch to the DPFP model all serial tests pass, and all parallel
> tests pass except for 'cnstph/explicit' (many small differences) and
> 'lipid_npt_tests/mdout_nvt_lipid14' (1 very small diff in EPtot), so
> this does appear to be a precision thing. I'm just wondering if there
> isn't some way we can improve the SPFP tests so they "work". I'm
> worried that if we get too used to seeing all of these diffs in the
> test output it will be harder to spot an actual problem if/when it
> arises.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Dan
>
> >
> > So as long as the diffs appear in some kind of "ntt2" or "ntt3" test
> > (Andersen or Langevin thermostats), and the remaining diffs are small,
> you
> > should be fine. FWIW, 37 sounds about the right number to me.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Jason
> >
> > --
> > Jason M. Swails
> > BioMaPS,
> > Rutgers University
> > Postdoctoral Researcher
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