That's my point by "help with it" - It was a good start but nobody seemed to care / want to help get something built that was useful to us all. Sure it's easy to point out the shortfalls etc but what we really need is people to take the time to help get these sorts of things setup.
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 15:02, Jason Swails <jason.swails.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> PS: I just wish AMBER has continuous integration (again) so I can capture
>>> all possible install failures quickly.
>>
>> We had it - it was working - nobody bothered to use it, support it's use
>> or help with it - ergo it died.
>>
>
> The Cruise Control was good as an early POC, but it was never advanced to
> the point of being truly useful in the devops process. Qualities of an
> effective continuous integration platform *require* its use. At a bare
> minimum, it should email the offending committer when a build is broken.
> But to be truly effective at maintaining quality control, it needs to block
> merging to master until all scheduled builds and tests pass. As in the
> merge button needs to be greyed-out and not clickable until the build and
> tests finish and report that it passes the check. If CI is not at least
> mildly irritating to developers, it's not effective. It was also
> retroactive, not proactive (it could tell you after you broke master, but
> would do nothing to prevent you from doing so).
>
> The projects I've seen that have an "effective CI" almost never introduce
> regressions that either break the build or an existing test. And projects
> that have *switched* to this model (e.g., cpptraj and ParmEd) showed
> improvements (BIGLY): development pace picked up markedly and the
> introduction of testing regressions slowed to a crawl.
>
> The reason that Hai, Dan and myself switched to developing on GitHub isn't
> because it's the hip thing to do. We do it partially because we get more
> attention and community assistance on our codes, but just as importantly,
> CI is very easy and effective there.
>
> All the best,
> Jason
>
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