Re: [AMBER-Developers] Tutorials, II

From: Nhai <nhai.qn.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:45:50 -0400

Hi

I think the background color is very strong and not eye pleasing. The TOC is very crowded too.

Hai

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:27 PM, David Cerutti <dscerutti.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How does it look now?
>
> http://casegroup.rutgers.edu/~cerutti/amber_web/tutorials/
>
> I have the masthead.jpg image rendered with layers in .xcf format (Gnu
> Image Manipulation Program), anticipating that we can make that our banner
> with a bit of text-as-image. (I'd suggest "AMBER Molecular Simulations,"
> but I'm sure we'll have some exchanges about the exact words.)
>
> I've tried to nail things down pretty well but I haven't yet tested across
> many browsers.
>
> Dave
>
>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:28 PM, David A Case <david.case.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016, Dave Cerutti wrote:
>>>
>>> All right, thanks for the outpouring of support. I will explain briefly
>>> some of what I had been trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Thanks for your careful looks at the tutorial web page. Some comments are
>> interspersed below.
>>
>>>
>>> *- Single page format is too long.*
>>
>> I basically agree here.
>>
>> Can we get a visually attractive top-level ToC? The existing boxes and
>> ToC images are not perfect, but they do add visual interest and separate
>> one entry from the next one. Is there some analogue for a new ToC page?
>> And, let's try to keep the number of sub-ToC's as small as we can (that
>> still makes sense.)
>>
>>> There are also logistical considerations. If everything is on one
>>> page, that means that all 49 ToC images have to be transferred when the
>>> page loads. People look at this site on their mobile devices,....
>>
>> If some of the ToC graphics are too big, we should pare them down, in my
>> view.
>> A ToC graphic should be small. If there is a neat figure that illustrates
>> something important, put it into the tutorial proper.
>>
>> Supporting mobile devices is a large-ish ask, and would probably involve
>> a major effort spanning the entire site. Let's see if we can fix the
>> tutorials first.
>>
>>> ....the fonts need to change. The Sans-Serif headings contrasting
>>> with the serif text is odd, but the italicized blue serif links do not
>> fare
>>> well on top of the textured grey background. This is a computational
>>> chemistry package, and we often express ideas in which commas and tick
>>> marks matter. They get lost against the textured background and they can
>>> blend in with serif fonts, especially if italics are in play. People who
>>> know the material may not see a problem, but they're also not the ones
>> who
>>> need to read the pages.
>>
>> OK: I hadn't realized the problem of the texture background interfering
>> with
>> seeing commas and tick-marks. I'd like to have a common background image,
>> and
>> suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Sans-serif headlines combined with serif text is not "odd": is is a very
>> common standard (see, e.g. the Manual, which uses the koma-script LateX
>> defaults.) But using better colors is fine, and even different fonts, if
>> that
>> is what people want. However, I'd like to have a common "amber.css" file,
>> rather than a "tutorial.css" file that is only used for part of the site.
>>
>> Maybe the simplest thing is to create a git branch where suggested pages
>> could
>> go; those could then be easily merged into the master branch as people
>> agree
>> on what should be done.
>>
>> Thanks again to Dave for looking into this, and for continuing to pursue
>> it.
>>
>> ...dac
>>
>>
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