Re: [AMBER-Developers] Some notes and questions from the recent developers' meeting

From: Ross Walker <>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:26:17 -0800

Hi All,

I also reiterate my idea that we make a full AMBER 15 - which is AmberTools 15 + Amber 15 - which essentially includes all the updates from the website and anything else we add in the next couple of weeks and make this a free upgrade for anyone with an AMBER 14 license. Or you call it AMBER 14.1 to avoid confusion on why we are suddenly giving away a major release version.

The advantage of this is we get away from having both Amber 14 with AmberTools 14 and Amber 14 with Amber(Tools)15 in the same location etc etc. We can add an amber15 directory for example etc etc.

The easiest way on download is just to roll over all the existing keys for downloading AMBER 14 over to an AMBER 15 download.

All the best

> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Scott Brozell <> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 02:08:10PM -0500, Jason Swails wrote:
>> On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 11:58 -0500, David A Case wrote:
>>> Here are a few points that came up at the recent developers' meeting:
>>> 1. Please visit and update the contributors' page:
>>> 2. Please update publications in the Reference Manual; add new relevant
>>> publications. If you don't cite your papers, who will?
>>> 3. We need a good way to refer to the combination "AmberTools15 + Amber14".
>>> At the meeting, I indicated a preference for just calling this
>>> "Amber15", but I think that is likely to be quite confusing. Maybe
>>> there is no shorter name that works, but suggestions are welcome.
>> Amber 14.5? 2 years from now it can be Amber 16.7? Amber
>> 84317ac3609010bb08ccfeb2893c72a3 (sum of the md5sums of
>> AmberTools15.tar.bz2 and Amber14.tar.bz2)? [1] :)
>> [1] Just a demo. This is the sum of AmberTools14.tar.bz2 and
>> Amber14.tar.bz2 for now.
>> Personally I prefer Amber 15. AmberTools has all of the functionality
>> of Amber, just not its performance. And it isn't like we're treating
>> Amber 14 as a "bugfix-only" release right now -- it has a lot more
>> functionality now than it did last April. But I see the case for this
>> causing confusion.
> I also prefer Amber 15. There is and always was just one Amber software
> suite even though for a while it came in two parts with different names.
> As i understand it, the bifurcation was an attempt to deal with
> licensing issues. I don't understand how those issues have changed, but
> we must pay another price of user confusion to get back to normality.
> scott
> ps for historical context see (as well as other temporally close threads):
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